Where are all the bleeding heart ultraliberals when I need them?

By raising a previous question about what I consider to be the laxity of gun control laws and raising the possibility that the Va. shootings may be related to sickos and unstable criminal types being allowed to carry weapons, I got twenty answers from assorted gun nuts, probably none with any military or law enforcement experience decrying the push to control their supposed right to hold concealed weapons. It was only then that I realized there are more nuts on the lunatic right fringe than on the ultraliberal communist fringe lurking on these boards. Having served and protected this country more than once, I now realize there are some dangerous people out there encouraged by equally dangerous sideline boosters.

Where are all the bleeding heart ultraliberals when I need them?
I told you so.


This Yahoo thingie is filled with the Ultra Cons/Bible Thumping ignorant fools.


Got to recruit us more Libs to this site.
Reply:Listen to you like you're some sort of scientific pollster. Well, here's a view from the real world:





The problem isn't that we need more laws. What we need are fewer liberal judges who won't let the current laws be enforced. I arrested a 14 year old kid, in a public school, with a loaded .25 automatic in his pocket, a felony. When it went to trial, this uber-lib judge dismissed the charges because the gun was malfunctioning. Don't get me wrong, the gun would still shoot. It was just that you had to rack the slide after each shot. Before the trial could begin the judge put the kid on the stand, over the objections of the prosecutor, and asked the kid:





You just found this gun and were going to turn it in, weren't you? and of course, the kid said yes.





Three years later, and after a lot more arrests, this kid was killed in a shoot-out with the Police after an armed robbery.





Guns don't kill people, bleeding-heart ultra-liberals kill people.
Reply:YEAH!!!!!!!!!, what he said (conner g)











....and what "ret roch cop" says....everything except that last line......i dont want to make this a political thing.....





liberals, consevertives, we need to find a solution as americans and do something
Reply:I am a gun owning liberal - I don't know any criminal in history who has been stopped by a gun control law. And those shootings were definitely related to at least one "sicko" - duh - but to insinuate politics in to the already murky waters of this situation is beyond ridiculous. -k-
Reply:I have served in the Military (Vietnam) and retired from NYPD. In all my experience I never came across a situation involving a LEGAL GUN. Ted Kennedy"s car has killed more people than my gun. Law abiding citizens have a right to bear arms. If you blame legitimate people for gun violence you are way out of line. Licensed gun dealers sell guns to unlicensed people and then report the gun they sold as stolen. When the criminal is caught with the illegal gun the liberal courts slap them on the wrist. Get the liberal Judges out of the courts and the liberal Legislators out of Congress and impose real penalties and laws that work. Those gun dealers that engage in illegal practice should be jailed instead of fined. Once again some fool has a cure all (punish all) answer to the gun violence. How about some original thinking for once.
Reply:What has military or law enforcement experience got to do with anything? This is a question of a citizen's right to bear arms. Calling everyone "nuts" merely tends to highlight your lack of an ability to debate in a reasoned manner.
Reply:I too have served my country and I have also served my community as a Police Officer. Unless I am mistaken, By US Federal Law, Unstable Criminal types and Unstable people in general, are prohibited from buying or owning firearms. I would suggest that you go to a gun dealership and ask to see a Firearm buyers application form. I also have yet to see a bonifide police officer or any law abiding citizen be a "sideline booster" by encouraging criminals to own guns. While I fully agree that there are some nuts that should not own guns can and do get their hands on them ILLEGALLY, Identifying those same criminals and then actually enacting blanket laws and expecting the criminally insane to abide by them are virtually impossible. I don't have the answers and obviously, neither do you. But what I do know, to start screaming incoherently about needing MORE gun control on the heals of such a huge tragic event such as the VA. Tech. shootings will do absolutely nothing to solve the problem. Agree or disagree, that's my thoughts on the subject.