Monday, April 27, 2009

For all the bleeding heart liberals that claim our use of NON-lethal 'torture' ....?

For all the bleeding heart liberals that claim our use of NON-lethal 'torture' will only lead the terrorist to want to strike us, I have one question...





What did we do to deserve 9/11?





Why do they continue to oppose and expose our methods when they have prevented several attacks. Do they really hate the President so much that they are willing to danger the lives of innocent American men, women, and children to make a political point? How would you feel if you lost a husband/wife/child in a terrorist act that could have been prevented if we just had not put a terrorist's feelings over the lives of Americans?

For all the bleeding heart liberals that claim our use of NON-lethal 'torture' ....?
Think it through a bit more....torture is defined in treaties we have signed....I hate the president. not for his hair color or vocabulary, but for things like this.....THese ARE THE REASONS I HATE HIM....I don't have to make anything up. I don't hate the "spying on Americans' or the tortuting because I don't like Bush...I hate him because of those reasons
Reply:First of all, we have managed in the past to win wars without the use of torture. Second, what makes you think we haven't killed anyone through torture. Finally, I don't believe that there have been that many foiled terrorist attacks as I believe the current regime is nothing but lying POS!
Reply:Oh I don't know:





Instigating insurgents and destabilizing countries then installing leaders who are pro-American and pro-Capitalism.





Created a society (US) in which people become addicted to "things" and are willing to cheat, lie, and steal to make the money to buy more and more.





We "dumb down" our people so that they are easier to control - keep them in fear so that they will do what the nightly news tells them to do.





Generation of fear of "foreign" peoples who's ideas and religions are "different" than our own.





How many "American" companies have gone overseas, where laws are slack, to take advantage of other nations' natural resources.





For the last 3000 years the human race has sought to solve problems through war - it does not work. More die and more problems arise.





Everyone who is "FOR" war, killing, and torture as a solution should just pick a nice desolate area and go at it. Whoever is left standing gets the right to stand up and say, "I was right. I WINNNNNNN!"
Reply:America’s own Intelligence experts have repeatedly maintained that torture produces unreliable results; and that it wastes time and resources chasing down false leads that could be put to better use on methods and tactics that actually work.





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Al-Qaeda—the real Al-Qaeda—has not tried to attack the US. Every so-called terrorist attack since 9/11 championed by the Bush Administration has involved only mentally challenged nitwits and wanna-bes. Aside from the fact that Al-Qaeda operates on something like an 8-10 window; when their next attack comes, no one will have to ask if it was Al-Qaeda.





And, the Bush administration has demonstrated its total inability to stop any serious threat.





In the months leading up to 9/11, Richard Clarke (National Security Council’s Director of counter-terrorism) sent the following emails to Bush’s National Security Advisor, Condoleezza Rice:





“Bin Ladin Public Profile May Presage Attack” (May 3, 2001)





“Terrorist Groups Said Co-operating on US Hostage Plot” (May 23, 2001)





“Bin Ladin’s Networks’ Plans Advancing” (May 26, 2001)





“Bin Ladin Attacks May Be Imminent” (June 23, 2001)





“Bin Ladin and Associates Making Near-Term Threats” (June 25, 2001)





“Bin Ladin Planning High-Profile Attacks” (June 30, 2001)





“Planning for Bin Ladin Attacks Continues, Despite Delays” (July 2, 2001)





http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/they-kn...





On August 6, 2001, Bush received a CIA report entitled:


"Bin Laden determined to attack inside the U.S."





Armed with this information—knowing that AQ operatives were in American flight schools—knowing that the intelligence community was “running around with its hair on fire” screaming that a Bin-laden attack was imminent—what did Bush do? — He took the longest vacation in US Presidential history.





Either, Bush is the most lame and pathetically stupid national leader in human history—or he is a traitor.
Reply:Go have yourself waterboarded, tool. Or your family. Then let's talk of torture. Look into US foreign policy for the last 60 years and then perhaps you might glean out a few reasons why another country decided to take a shot at us.





Provide some proof of these thwarted attacks.
Reply:Did America "deserve" 9/11 ? No, of course not. Did the innocent women and children in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Korea, Nagasaki, Nicaragua etc etc, ad infinitum, deserve to die at the hand of America ? Did they deserve to die to make a political point on America's behalf ?


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