Friday, May 21, 2010

Why do some people have bleeding hearts for illegal immigrants?

I'm not going to condemn their characters, but if they can't abide by the rules, why should they be allowed here? Who cares whose land it was in the past, the USA is a government run country and if illegals can't come here legally they shouldn't come at all.





But so many people feel they should be allowed to stay... Why? So they are from poor countries? What about the homeless, hungry, and poor people we have right here in the USA of all backgrounds and heritages but are US citizens? And if anything, its illegal Mexicans that give hispanic americans (of any nationality) a bad name and their the ones who are shaping america's negative image of hispanics and their culture as a whole.





So why do especially liberals have "so much" sympathy for people who can't respect the rules and don't even respect this country in general? Don't they realize they are disrespecting them too? The only reason they are working hard and being nice is to mooch off and get rich-quick.

Why do some people have bleeding hearts for illegal immigrants?
Yes, they are givin us(Hispanics) a bad name. I am not too fond of Mexicans, most i know seem racist towards Black ppl, mestizos/mulattoes, and other Hispanics who aren't Mexican. Then they wonder why other Hispanics won't support them when it comes to immigration. I don't support illegal immigration. Why should they be allowed to come here, when they did break the law and then most of them don't make an effort to learn f-in English. They think that just b/c they come from a poor country that they will get a free ticket for everything. Well, they have to work for it, just like everyone else in America.
Reply:We're sympathetic because we can identify with the struggles that drive them here to the United States. If a person is only making $100 a month to support his/her family and the opportunity to make more is just over the border, then I can see the logic.





Of course it is illegal/wrong/ etc. However I understand the motive and that is why I have a soft spot for illegal immigrants.
Reply:dude if you weren't puerto rican your dad would have swam to the u.s





sugar i love you..klaudya¹ i tend to like your answers,but Cubans don't get to be legal because of their ethnicity,but rather Communism
Reply:I agree with Mike. And it is too easy to demonize this group of people. The problem is that it is hard to tell who is against these people for the legal reasons or racial reasons. A lot of people suspect it is racial hatred under the disguise of legal reasons.
Reply:"They" is a pretty strong word. I have worked day labor in the Southwest..."they" are not all bad. Many of them were eager to practice their English with me. Some are just afraid. These are huge corporations they are working for...and nobody says anything about the companies. I mean they were building city blocks at a time at this one particular company and besides the owners I was likely the only citizen there. The meaningless of my temp job (sweeping out McMansions in a dust storm!) just made be feel like they were using legal temps to cook the books. Nobody ever says anything about the people who employ them (oooh its just GOOD BUSINESS to look for the cheapest worker...those poor business owners are just trying to stay afloat..blah blah blah..)





Its just a matter of who your heart bleeds for more...if you are concerned about the huge real estate companies I'd call you a bleeding heart conservative!





--And believe me, if the stuff hit the fan tomorrow and my child was starving I'd be tunneling my butt to Canada too...so I guess that's why I can empathize with some of them.





Does that answer the question?
Reply:Dude if you were living in that kind of poverty and watching your family go without day after day,your "Politically Ignorant" a** would be jumping that fence too.
Reply:i dislike illegal immigration, but don't get me started on people who get "free passes" because of their ethnicity (insert Cuban here). What's up with that?!
Reply:A little angry, are we?





Depends on which reality you live in, I guess.





You happen to live in the reality where borders are absolute and government and society's laws are paramount , and anything that is not black and white is unacceptable.





Some people live in the reality where the source of their next meal in uncertain, where their lives are at risk on a daily basis, where they want hope for their children and just want to feel safe and productive.





Many of these people end up in a new land that they don't feel a part of, and isolate themselves within that new land in familiar cultural environments.





There are also some people who think that no matter our origins, we are all the same, and imaginary lines drawn in the sand in order to maintain social control for any given purpose are less real than the soil the lines are drawn on. That humanity has wrapped itself into a numbing blanket of shortsightedness, choosing to only find similarities between people that spend their time in a relatively similar geographical area.





I choose humanity over government.
Reply:I wholeheartedly agree. My mother had to wait 5 years in order to even be considered for immigration. My father's parents were granted asylum but it was still a very tedious process. When I think of people who with no regard for our laws or for those who are waiting patiently to come here to live, I can't help but liken illegal immigration to a slap in the face.





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Sugar%26amp;Spice: Well what of those who in fact live in such poverty and even political unrest, but who nonetheless continue patiently waiting to come here legally? Are you saying it is ok for people to cut in front of the line?





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Klaudya: Political Asylum is a good thing. I would literally not be living if it weren't for asylum. Asylum (or as you call it: free pass) is given to those who can prove that going back to their country would severly jeopardize their life (due to any kind of political unrest in that nation).





SOME Cubans are given asylum. (Not so much anymore. It happened more often in the 60's %26amp; 70's, when my grandparents came here to the US). You must understand that Cuba is a socialist country. You have NO rights in Cuba. More importantly, Cuba is led by a dictator who has been in power for nearly 50 years! There are countless accounts of Cuban political prisoners that the government simply makes "disappear". Call me biased, but I think "If I go back the government will kill me" is worthy of a "free pass" whereas "If I go back, I'll be poor" isn't.
Reply:I have nothing against anyone of any race or ethnicity. But I have to agree with you and say, if your not a legal citizen or carry a visa to legally work and live here, you shouldn't be here. Laws are laws, nothing to do with your skin color or where you're from.


I actually was involved with someone who was living here illegally. Liked them...but they were still breaking the law.


People shouldn't justify breaking the law because of poverty, because thats one of the main reason US citizens break the law anyway. Try changing how long it takes to become a legal US citizen, instead of letting people break laws in our country and then make excuses for them.
Reply:i think if people were put into the situations of the illegals they'd understand. its like the people who make fun of others. if your put in their shoes, you would not like it and you'd stop. see people don't understand what wasn't meant for them to comprehend. a lot of people don't want to listen. they'd rather just say i know. put yourself in another person's shoes, then you'd understand, and not be so cruel. the point in it is to appreciate another's struggles. people just don't do that anymore. so...until people open their hearts and minds to others struggles, the world will go under and under, till no one is left.
Reply:Are you an illegal human being or just a racist? "People without visas" is less rhetorically racist.

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