Why all these bleeding hearts about torturing terrorists?

What the hell happened to America? Why do we allow publicity for the huge sissies around here that are opposed to torturing terrorists.





Hell, I was pissed off because we were forced to resort to "extreordinary rendition". Why should we have to outsource torture to Yemen or Egypt? What the hell are we paying our CIA for?!





Wake up lamebrains! The enemy doesn't abide by any code of honor, and mere "waterboarding" is too good for the bastards. We should be pulling their fingernails out and mutiliating their genitals if thats what it takes!

Why all these bleeding hearts about torturing terrorists?
now that's the good ole red blooded american spirit!
Reply:I agree...and to those that comment on torturing innocent people...you didn't seem to care when Sadaam was the one doing the torturing of his OWN country's innocent people.
Reply:The only thing they are doing is gaining about 40 pounds while guests of the U.S. . The torture will come when the "bleeding hearts" release them back to their homeland and the poor terrorists have to get used to their old diets again.
Reply:every ones reality is different. your reality is that you cant incorporate justice with "human".. if you always have violence the results are going to be what you see in the world today.. people with hate and no human ability to think are the ones that cannot bring themselves to talk, but wrather use lives as objects.. if you believe you have all the balls than you go fight... eventhough terrorist believe they are the ones fighting the evil.... altho their reality is almost like yours....
Reply:I totally agree with you. Well said!
Reply:This is such a BS question. We're supposed to be more moral than they are. In America you're innocent until proven guilty.





When American murderers are caught and put in prison they are punished but they're not tortured! That's the difference between us and them
Reply:Hard to stand up for human rights and rule of law, fighting those that don't, when acting just like them huh dumbass?





Bleeding hearts do suck and I wish they would shut up most of the time, but resorting to torture, in the name of fighting torture, is absurd.





That and giving the government the ability to legally torture anyone is just opening pandora's box. I for one, would prefer not to be tortured under any circumstances and that's how it should always go.





We aren't like them because we DON'T torture, that's the whole damn point of fighting those extremists in the first damn place.





Lamebrain.
Reply:Two wrongs never make a right. Pretend you are civilized. It is time the human race evolves into something more rational and less based on emotions only. Also.....get an education.
Reply:well if america tortures terrorists it will leave a bad mark on history. i could imagine it now, 50 yeqars from now people would be talking about americans capturing innocent arabs and torturing them. yes that would be something to be proud of wouldn't it??? :S it would be just as bad as iraq and their secret torturing chambers ( if they really do exist and is not some cheap media stunt)





also another thing. why do we call the iraqi soldiers terrorists when they have never launched a terrorist attack on a western country?
Reply:If we're not better than them, why are we bothering with any of this?





We're not better than them because we say we are. We actually have to BE better than them. If we're not, we've already lost the war by becoming what we hated in the first place...
Reply:Just so you know, whatever we agree to as far as punishment goes, is valid for our prisoners-of-war when they are captured as well. If we just start to become judge, jury and executioner for our own cause, than we should not be outraged when it is done to us.





Having said that.....





That is the cost of doing business. We need information to win. Period. People have a tendency to give up information as you methodically hack off their fingers knuckle by knuckle, or some other such horrific way of making people talk. History has shown us the bravery of U.S. soldiers knowing nothing other than their name, rank and serial number for the sake of protecting the country. Our counter operatives, meanwhile, were learning the secrets piece by piece, and as a result, we have achieved more in two hundred years than any other young country before us.





God Bless America
Reply:I don't think we should be mutilating anyone -- that would make us the same as them. However, I'm not against some "psychological warfare" to get the info we need. But, I'd hope we were pretty damn sure the person was really bad. Our code of honor is what makes us better than a lot of other places.
Reply:John McCain and Colin Powell oppose torture. I wouldn't call either a sissy like you do.
Reply:You don't seem to understand, the law can be used to torture you.


American citizens. Not to mention torture does not render reliable information. It only makes them say what the torturer wants to hear. Which isn't nessecarily the truth.
Reply:they are NOT torturing terrorist. They are torturing innocent people.


From the former detainee's, we know how american and it puppet in afghanistan mix some Taliban and a bunch of regular citizens that are trapped in the battle, say all of them are dangerous terrorist, sort them and look for those who can speak english. Then one who can speak english will be the most dangerous terrorist, and he will be sent to guantanamo. In guantanamo, he is forced to admit that he is terrorist, otherwise USA cruel soldiers wouldnt stop torturing. All of these are facts.





of course we hate saddam and his dictatorship, and we hate americans and israelis for make it even worse. During saddam era, there is no bomb everyday, and USA kills 10 times more people a month than saddam
Reply:It has been proven time and time again torture does not work to gain valuable intelligence. It never has. The intelligence you gather from torture is unreliable, and is only given to stop the torture. So, in most cases the prisoner will give you information they think you want to hear so you will stop.





I suspect that is why we had so many false alerts early on in the "War on Terror."
Reply:On the one hand, terrorists are not soldiers. They do not serve a country but are supported through state sponsered terrorism, so general rules (geneva convention) should not apply.





But on the otherhand, we should be held to a much higher standard. For the most part, the detainees at Guantanamo are treated very well when you compare the conditions at gitmo to a toss-my-salad federal penitentary like Folsom or Angola. Face it, our federal prisons are hell on earth compared to the club med like environs of gitmo. The only thing our prisoners and the detainees have in common is they're all getting fat.





Blasting the Red Hot Chili Peppers 24/7 won't make the terrorists fold like cheap card tables. Why not just give em the hippie treatment...stick em in a k-hole or drop a tab of acid into their mashed potatoes. That way, they're not physically hurt, just psychologically mind-f*cked for a few hours.
Reply:I AGREE. WHAT PISSED ME OFF ABOUT THE PRISON SCANDAL? THE GOVT WAS SO WORRIED ABOUT HOW WE LOOKED TO THE REST OF THE WORLD..........NOT ONLY DID WE AIR THE PICTURES ON EVERY DAMN MAJOR NEWS STATION, WE RELEASED 300 F-CKING PRISONERS!!!!! DURING WARTIME!!!! YOU BET YOUR *** THEY WERE SMILING AS THEY DROVE OUT THAT GATE. WE LOOKED LIKE IDIOTS. YOU'RE RIGHT. THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT WE'RE "THE MORAL ONES"


We could have just gave them a cupcake for dessert and tucked them in to bed and say to all "it wont happen again."


Can you imagine that happening in Viet Nam? No. I wonder how many of them got back out and picked up a weapon.


OR a Marine on trial having to defend why he killed an Iraqi?


It's bullshit. No one said war is nice.


Im glad you wrote it.
Reply:Torture does not yield reliable information. Ask John McCain what he thinks about torture and interrogation. He was a POW in the Hanoi Hilton for some years. I think his opinion is worth hearing.
Reply:So you would rather act the same way as the terrorists? Wow, way to teach your kids.





Torture is wrong, deal with it. Or maybe dealing with it is such a torture for you too.