On the BBC news tonight, they filmed 2 child killers released from jail who are staying in the same hostel in bristol and are filmed talking to children on council estates and its the same in towns and citys up and down the country.So why does the majority accept what a tiny clique that are the liberal elite decide. If you have had the misfortune to suscribe to the guardian you have the standard bearer for every minority cause no matter how rotten.The liberal elite champion rehabilitation of the worst sort of scum in society when the majority advocate letting filth like this rot for the remainder of their lives behind bars. Personally i think child killers should be strung up by the bollox, yet you can be sent to jail for not paying your tv license yet vermin like this walk the streets. Something is fecked up with society when this is the scenario.
Why do we let the bleeding heart guardian readers wreck the UK?
I read the Guardian and I hate paedophiles as much as the next sane guy.
Reply:I've never been a Guardian reader, apart from the short period of time when I was browsing through the graduate jobs section, but I never will be. Just not long ago, the Guardian wrote an article about soya and soya products being bad for you. Where did they get this intelligent idea? Look at the chinese, they've been eating it for thousands of years and they never had any health problems related to eating the stuff. How dare the Guardian journalist claim that soya products are bad for you??? Because of this bullsshit of an article I will not believe anything the Guardian says. I also agree with you, that the readers of Guardian are all stuck-up elite who haven't got a clue about real life, i.e some of my old university tutors (one of them was questioning me why I was going to work when I'm a student - obviously he didn't have a clue how hard it was to manage on student loan only and of course, he was forever advertising the Guardian as the best paper to read).
Reply:So you're saying that anyone who is pro human rights and common decency is also pro paedophiles and so is the Guardian?
I think the Guardian might be interested in your opinion, why not go tell them instead of coming on here and banging your drum.
There is no liberal elite that think that everyone can be rehabilitated; thats just what you've been told by people who know how to yank your chain.
The Guardian don't run the prisons or criminal justice system.
Reply:Had you actually read the Guardian, you would know that the genocide story that was also on the news was reported in the Guardian about a month ago.
The Guardian is way ahead of all the other British newspapers.
Have a look for yourself; http://www.guardian.co.uk/
Reply:What a curious load of twisted logic...the Guardian don't set any agenda and I for one woudl still welcome a paper that isn't manipulated to the politics of a moneyed owner. The Guardian would also be a paper that championed open files so you could check what was being written about you by a govt keen to criminalise all; it has championed human rights and civil liberties which the right appear to believe is agift to be taken away from a select few rather than recognise the danger of allowing eroision of rights for all; the paper has held the government accountable on numerous scandals and issues that affect the very fabric of society and would be a paper that also reports that sending people to prison for not paying a TV licence is absurd while arguing quite rightly that a child killer is different to someone found with a handful or illegal images. In short they try to ensure a better rounded and less warped vision of the world and one unblinkered by the hostile, twisted anger and repetition of lies and misinformation that fits many other agendas. Look at all media and you will find somethign to hate or disagree with but to blame this paper for what..? that people commit crimes? that jails are full? that rehabiliatation is possible not for all but for some? that rights for the masses shoudl be protected? The argument is false. As for one contributor and her strange ranting about soya - well The Guardian did question how soya is grown and the damage that it is doing to the environment which included clearance of vast tracts of virgin Amazonian rain forest so yep in a way soya is kind of bad for you for me and for everyone else.
Reply:Oh dear...Grauniad readers unite! What about the surreal and cryptic messages certain right wing media throw upon us day after day. After your bold 12 words, you showed us the maturity of a Sun reader...I can just about remember the case of Stefan Kiszko who was given a life sentence in 1976 for sexual assault %26amp; murder - all newspapers (even the Guardian) felt satisfied about the verdict...not as satisfied as, say, the Mail and the Sun, but they saw it as 'justice'. Then, after 16 years he was released - on appeal, that is - and God indeed had plans for him, as he died soon after from a massive heart attack.
You'll find that every side of the media today wrecks the UK in their own cute ways, and we only find out the truth when it's too late.
Reply:If convicted paedophiles and murderers serve their sentence, are released as per our legal system permits, then they re-offend, all we can really do is go through the process again. We abolished the death sentence as "an eye for an eye" justice simply doesn't work, and should not be the way a civilised society operates. The United States is proof that people still steal, rape and murder in states where the death penalty is in operation.
I can't stand the thought of paedophiles living amongst the rest of us, but what else can we do? We don't want to put them together in a secret hideyhole, we don't want to start stringing them up, as you put it, as that's a scary path to walk down. Hey, rape is just as bad as paedophilia, let's give them the death penalty. Hey, so is murder! Hey, so is petty theft! Hey, so is parking on a double yellow! I'm exaggerating, of course, but who draws the line? The general public don't get much of a say in the way the law is defined, other than to elect representatives to the parliaments and assemblies that *do* define the law, and even then we don't always get what we want.
What I'd like to see is life sentences handed out for murderers and paedophiles, and for life to mean life, not this 10-20 year nonsense. If you murder someone, we don't kill you in return, but we take away your privileges of being a member of this society. If you're a paedophile convicted of molesting children, you go down for life too, as you've effectively destroyed that person's life anyway.
I can't think of anything else we could do, and I really don't think the Guardian, or its readers, have much to do with the problem.
Reply:Most Guardian readers have their heads up their backsides and don't have a clue about real life.
They have good jobs, nice homes, live in nice areas and know nothing of the depravation and poverty some people in Britain have to deal with today. Thats why they stand up for illegal immigrants and asylum seekers and any other piece of trash that makes it harder for the ordinary British person to get a good job and keep a roof over his head.
My ex was just such a Guardian reader. The guy had a fantastic job and earned a fecking fortune. He never had any inkling of how miserable life is for some people in this country. He though you were hard done by if you only got two holidays a year instead of four, or had to buy your clothes from Tescos rather than a designer shop. In fact he had very little understanding of what life was like for most. Complete IDIOT!
As for child killers, well my Mum in Law was attacked and raped by a violent paedophile at the age of 9 (back in 1972) who nearly killed her. She was so badly injured in the attack that she nearly bled to death and they never thought she'd walk again (he came close to severing her spinal cord with his knife) or have children (because of the internal damage done in the rape). Thankfully she managed to do both (and is about to become a Grannie!), but at 44 she is still in constant pain and is registered disabled from what this monster did to her.
The week after he attacked her this fiend raped and murdered a 5 year old girl by slitting her throat.
He went uncaught until a few years ago when modern forensic evidence linked him to a recent sex attack on a child. God knows how many kids he had attacked over the years. How come he went free for so long but some little old lady who didn't pay her TV licence would be locked up quicker than you could say "BBC 1"?
If those Guardian readers want to support the rights of child killers they can meet my mum in law and tell her why face to face. She can show them the scars he left her with. Might make them think differently when they pull their heads out of their arses, stop living in fluffy la-la land and start to see reality. I wonder how they'd feel if one of these sickos went on to attack one of THEIR children?
gary
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